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A popular online “looksmaxxer” got a bunch of cosmetic surgery and people are making fun of how it isn’t worth it for male insecurities

This guy is an asshole and the hate is deserved. He shot an alligator on stream for views (which is illegal btw) and overdosed on stream and a bunch of other bad shit. Along with promoting insecurities/dangerous chemicals/steroids/treating women like objects/penis pumps/etc to children.

For those that don’t know looksmaxxing is a movement that expanded from incel culture and involves taking TRT (steroids) underage, smashing your face bones with a hammer, diy surgeries, etc. It is expanding massively online and creates a LOT of new words that Gen z use half ironically half unironically.

TLDR: Dumbass alpha male got a bunch of useless cosmetic surgeries and is ruining his life for views. People are making fun of him for it.

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      It really is. Dysmorphia must be getting so bad in boys now. We didn’t care when it was women but not that it’s making news cycles more means boys are being impacted.

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    Im so glad they are. A soon as you research this guy and see how he’s telling the next generation of males to basically be incels and hate women, its clear he’s a piece of shit. I reckon he’s close to killing himself anyway from depression so fingers crossed

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    I knew this guys name for a minute but forgot it. It’s something like “testicular”, isn’t it?

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    Imagine doing all this, just for Luigi Mangioni to be the real definition of an attractive male, and he isnt even out trying to be called pretty. He just is.

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    The best part about getting old with a beer belly is being in a loving relationship with someone who can see past that and not caring at all. The last time I smashed my face with a hammer was never.

    Sucks to be young people these days, though.

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    promoting insecurities/dangerous chemicals/steroids/treating women like objects/penis pumps/etc to children.

    I had heard of hitting your jaw with a hammer, which is definitely all kinds of batshit insane, but in addition to Looksmaxxingn in general and this whole sentence sounding very Epsteinesque, aren’t penis pumps alleged to be the cause behind his distinctive egg/lemon shaped dick deformity?

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/epstein-victim-describes-his-extremely-deformed-fruit-shaped-penis/

    For a better understanding of how Epstein used the internet and tech to target and undermine the education, mental health and well being of youth, (to clarify, this is in addition but not unrelated to his other criminal activity), I recommend the Behind the Bastards episode about Epstein and Activision:

    https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/part-one-how-jeffrey-epstein-helped-build-the-modern-world-323226341

    Dude was strategically planning ways to use video games and social media to target America’s youth with the ultimate goal of creating a society of sexist, misinformed, uneducated, and insecure voters who would be willing to vote against their own interests and easier for the elites to control.

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      People like this (the guy in the topic, not you, Escape) are the kind of people to unironically say that liking women is gay.

      So its 100% for the boys to think he’s a pretty pretty princess.

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      This is my take on it, too. The kinds of things these guys are doing seem to cater to the male gaze.

      Developmentally, it’s pretty normal for adolescents to style themselves to impress their same-sex peers for a while before they start trying to attract romantic partners. Maybe these guys are in a state of arrested development, maybe they’re gay … but definitely they’re very troubled if they think hammering their facial bones is a good idea.

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    im guessing he was suppose to be thiels new replacement BLOOD boy, after thiels previous one got defenestrated.

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      So-called “alpha-male” couldn’t walk in a straight line after some dental-grade anaesthetic.

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      Not gonna lie, after I had my wisdom teeth removed, I was goofy balls for the next four hours. They put me in a recovery room.

      Not hating on the guy for that. When you have your wisdom teeth removed, they put you under, and recovery is a bitch

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          Yeah, I’m not gonna judge the guy considering how he looked after surgery. Anyone would look like that.

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          This thread make it sound like wisdom tooth removal is some huge surgery. I just had some local anesthesia as the tooth was pulled. Fun cracking sounds in my head, some bleeding from where the tooth was that stopped after an hour or two. But it was pretty quick and I could just go about my day afterwards.

          I guess different places and different people?

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            Tooth?

            I had all 4 extracted when I was 16, long before they came in. And, yes, it WAS surgery performed by an endodontist. I was sedated for the procedure, and it took several hours for me to recover from the sedation.

            There are many different ways that people deal with their wisdom teeth. This is how I dealt with mine— or, more correctly, how my parents decided to deal with them.

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            I had bleeding for hours, and whatever is wrong with my stomach meant an endless cycle of nausea and being waterboarded by my own blood.

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        You know how some of the genes associated with red hair are also associated with resistance to pain killers? Would it be appropriate to tease someone because they carried those genes? Or, would it be hate speech?

        This is like the opposite: he could have an innate sensitivity to the medication and what’s why he went “goofy balls” to require a wheelchair.

        I got “lucky” with my wisdom teeth; I was conscious during the whole removal procedure and was even able to drive myself home. But, I didn’t have any choice in how deep / what orientation my wisdom teeth ended up in while my bones were fusing as a small child. It could have been a much more difficult procedure and made me “goofy balls” through no choice / with no control of my own.

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          So… just because you chose less deleterious painkillers for your wisdom teeth extraction doesn’t impact your morality. You are still the same shitbag (or not) before and after. And so is he. That is not the argument that I was making.

          I was simply commenting upon the fact that, after such heavy sedation, we all look pretty goofy, regardless of who or what we are

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            I was agreeing with and “yes, and”-ing your post.

            The image is denigrating him based on something entirely outside his choices and control; that’s unfair because “after such heavy sedation, we all look pretty goofy”.

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      Legally, hospitals wont let you leave without being wheeled out in a wheelchair under general anesthesia. Doesn’t matter if you feel ok to walk, it’s a liability thing with them

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      Have you ever been so manly that you couldn’t walk after getting your wisdom teeth removed?

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        Not to defend the guy but when I got my wisdom teeth removed they wouldn’t let me walk. They said it was a liability thing that any time they discharged a patient who received any amount of anesthetic in the prior 24 hours they had to wheel the patient out in a wheelchair. So I had to sit in the chair until they got me out the hospital doors but after that they didn’t give a fuck what I did.

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          My experience exactly, I had hand surgery late afternoon and spent the night at hospital because I only woke up from sedation at around midnight, but since it hadn’t been 24 hours between the anaesthetic and the early morning discharge, wheelchair it was.

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    I’m kind of interested to see, five years from now, his “redemption arc“ videos where he realizes everything he did was stupid and wrong and he’s gained 100 pounds and is trying to tell everyone he realizes how wrong he was.

    That should be amusing

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        Not if they get clean they don’t. Really either he’s acclimated to amphetamines and getting clean will make staying thin very difficult or he isn’t and staying on meth will likely push him past skinny and into visibly unhealthy looking.

        And it’s difficult to stay a high profile meth addict.

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    Holy shit.

    I’m ugly, but I’ve never in my life thought "You know what would make my face look better? Hammer to my own face! Lets break my skull bones! What could possibly go wrong?

    And haaaaaaaang on. Did you say he’s promoting penis pumps to CHILDREN???

    JESUS!!!

    Ok, forget the fact that penis pumps don’t actually work anyways…what POSSIBLE use would CHILDREN have for penis pumps??? If you’re raising your kid right, they should have zero clue what thats for anyways! Kids shouldn’t be thinking about sex at all, much less being targeted for sex toy advertisements!!!

    Quick question, honest question…would a jury convict me if I just stabbed this guy? They’d get what I was doing right? I feel like someone needs to stab him.

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      Kids shouldn’t be thinking about sex at all

      Did you not think about sex when you were in your teens, or do you not believe teens are kids? Either one is kind of weird, no?

      Like, what age do they do sex ed where you are?

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        I think of infants/babies from 0-1, children/ from 1-12, and teens from 13-19. And they don’t do sex ed where I’m from. I’m 42, and still my dad doesn’t think I’m old enough for the talk.

        But if I were a parent, I’d probably do it around age 14. Enough time that they’ve felt some of puberty, and enough to understand what I’m talking about, but young enough that they haven’t done something stupid yet.

        Last thing you want is for you to sit down your 8 year old kid, and try to have the talk, only for them to react with “eeewww cooties!” And for a kid? Yeah. That would be the correct response.

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              My wife’s approach is to have the talk early and repeatedly - but with an age appropriate level of detail. Our 8 year old knows that kids come from mama’s belly. He knows what bodies look like (sneaky guy always peeking on us). He also knows that romantic love is a different kind of thing. Unintentionally he also knows the word sexy, which I blame on pop music. I don’t think he knows what it means, at least.

              Funny though; once he advised us, unprompted, that “boys have a penis, and girls have hair.” We’re trying to raise him without prudishness or body issues, and with enough knowledge to avoid the mistakes he already seems so likely to make. I’ve never known anyone so impulsive in my life.

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                Hm, are y’all kids not asking questions? Like, my five year old basically knows everything, 'cause she asks and we answer ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

                It’s like “how does the baby get into mama’s belly, though?” and here we go. But what’s wrong about that anyway?

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                  My kid seems to prefer being the one who talks. So he knows less facts and I get to know… More about Minecraft than anyone else who doesn’t play Minecraft. Trade-offer.meme

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            …you’re worried about a kid getting pregnant, but also being advertised penis pumps to?

            Gotta say, I don’t think that’s gonna be an issue…

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          8 year olds are not only talking and joking about sex, they’re having it. Hell 8 year olds are committing suicide. I grew up in the 80s and we were definitely playing doctor and more, we had porn stashes in a bush in the woods somewhere (boys you know what I’m talking about). Waiting to have the talk until 14 is how you end up a grandparent before 40.

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            Well, this just goes to show my original comment about if you’re raising your kid right, they won’t know about sex.

            I ALSO grew up in the 80s, and I was watching peewees playhouse, and mr rodgers, and teenage mutant ninja turtles. I had no clue what sex was until 14/15. And didn’t have sex until I was either 17 or 18.

            If your kids are willingly having sex at age 8, you’ve failed your child. If they’re being raped, I wouldn’t call that “having sex”, but the rapist needs to die.

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              In some countries (like Iceland), children have sex for the first time at age 16 on average [0]. That’s the average age, which means 50% of all people have already had sex before then.

              If you wait to talk to them until 14, there’s probably a good chunk of them who will have had sex before even knowing what sex is, and many more that will grow up with the very skewed idea taught by porn. And nowadays kids will stumble upon porn even if you try to prevent it (friends, etc.).

              You might not like this and it might be different from your experience in the past, but it is IMHO better to have a discussion and teach them that most of what they see is as fake and scripted as an action movie, teach them what is safe, than having them learn dangerous stuff from friends and porn or improvising by themselves. IMHO making this such a taboo topic also helps abusers and pedophiles, because it makes it harder for the kid to actually talk about abuse and report it.

              [0] https://au.lifestyle.yahoo.com/virginity-map-average-age-people-first-have-sex-by-country-33094921.html?guccounter=1

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          Sex ed at a young age is important so children know when an adult is doing something they shouldn’t to them. In my school we had it the first time in 3rd grade to make children understand what is and isn’t normal to happen or for adults to do

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          Ich N the Netherlands sex ed starts around gerade 3. Incidentally they also have one of the lowest rates of teen pregnancy. I’m sure those two facts aren’t related though…

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          I got the talk formatted as a series of age appropriate conversations across growing up and it was very good for me. A little kid should know the names of genitals, what a bad touch is, and that they can say no to being touched. A kid should know what puberty is and what they can expect from it before it happens as well as that babies come from pregnancy. A pubescent kid should know enough not to make stupid choices before their body pushes them to make those choices. And at every age, you should answer any questions they have in an age appropriate manner.

          Yeah it’s awkward and uncomfortable, but this is a part of life and if you don’t talk to the kid about this stuff their peers or the internet will, and you really want the person explaining these sensitive topics to your child to be a mature adult with their best interests in mind. It’s much better to get an “ew I’m not feeling that way” than “don’t worry, [influncer] has already told me all about this”

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          The way I see it is that you’d do it gradually by laying a foundation first such as crushes, why people get married and how girls start looking nicer.

          Then you hammer it home on how to not get STDs and preggo. Then if they end up bringing someone home you introduce them to the “energy for the kid” vs “money for the kid” tradeoff for timing getting a baby and saying that not having one is fine too and their decision.

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      Sexual education is what keeps children safe. Censorship is what’s dangerous to them because then they’re unprepared for all of the things they are going to do anyway. Sexual education raises healthy adults. Censorship is what gets you these incel/looksmaxing lunatics.

      Edit: OP also said that he’s promoting women as penis pumps/objects. He isn’t promoting penis pumps directly to children.

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      Quick question, honest question

      Yes you would be convicted since “they had it coming” isn’t an acceptable defence to a GBH/murder charge. By asking about it beforehand you’ve also now shown premeditation as well.

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      FWIW the bonesmashing is a funny MSM headliner but the reality is that it’s not even remotely close to how it sounds when people meme about it lol. It’s microfactures in specific places and there’s some (but hardly conclusive) evidence supporting this

      Keep in mind that to an extreme autist like Clav, the difference between braces for straight teeth and using a mallet to cause microfactures in the cheek bones is no different. And in defense of the autists, these lines are purely cultural human constructs. In Europe they’d see American teeth culture probably similar to how you’d view much of the looksmaxxing methods African culture is big into wigs and fake hair so every cultural group of people have body modifications that are allowed and those that are taboo but these lines change throughout history and across geography. Not to defend these methods used by this group of people but also hard to judge when my parents had me go through braces to get unnaturally straight teeth

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          yeah, it’s crazy how issues i had dealt with for like half my life went away after braces (chronic nasal issues)

          braces are NOT only cosmetic!! (what i’m assuming you meant to write)

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          Thanks Reddit but you know my point and you know for most in America braces are largely a cosmetic thing hence why everyone in UK has fucked up teeth (by American standards). If it was health reasons driving the tooth alignment industry then it’d be happening in other countries but it’s uniquely an American focus downstream of our Hollywood culture

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    I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone go in for elective cosmetic surgery and come out looking better. There was end up looking like half melted shop mannequins.

    Now he looks like he’s suffering from some bone wasting disease.

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      I’ve seen it, but the problem is twofold: Firstly subtle is better, adding a cup size using fat from elsewhere in the body or trimming a little bit of bone can look good because it’s not a radical change that looks artificially constructed. Secondly, it takes a long time to heal right, it looks worse while healing, and it can be easy to not notice the change over that time.

      I’ve seen friends get facial feminization surgery and yeah, they look like a train wreck for a month but a year after surgery sometimes they look better. That said, you also usually need a surgeon willing to tell you no when you ask for too much.

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      It’s not the looks but the wealth expenditure.

      Being able to spend ludricrously on the scam is a sign of power amongst the elite, and that’s only one half. The other half is the attention it provides and that’s an economy all on its own.

      Material nihilism, where people realise there’s no point in hoarding so you gotta splurge AND hoard before you die.

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    I feel like we are looking at the photo people will refer to as the point where he had not yet fucked up his face. Watch him turn out like those crazy plastic surgery addicts who want to look like a Ken doll or some shit

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      He did say that no body is a perfect 10/10 and that looksmaxxing will have to be a life long struggle.

      So hes already in the right mindset to do that.

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        That sentence is so close to healthy before veering into wildly unhealthy. No body is a perfect 10/10, and taking care of your body is a lifelong struggle. But vitally the reason no body is perfect is because variety and tastes are key here.

        No pie is perfect either, you can make a damn good pie, but there’s always going to be someone who doesn’t like your filling or your crust type or the flavor profile you built or pies. Someone is going to prefer store bought, or the mediocre pie that their loved one makes. And if you can’t accept that you’re liable to drive yourself crazy and ruin your recipe in a mad pursuit of perfection.

        So yeah, get your body healthy and learn to love it regardless of appearance and even fitness.

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          Well the second part of his thought is that you’re not allowed to be happy until you’re perfect.

          So you figured out the rest of his destructive philosophy