Some do it for the money, some do it for the love of the game.
We had a first grade teacher who grabbed a kid by the back of the hair and repeatedly slammed his head off the desk. Happened a few times. Tied another kid to his chair and didn’t let him go to lunch. She’d slam her apple pointer inches from your face, at least until she broke it one day.
But it was first grade. We knew it wasn’t right, but just not how wrong it was.
Why a POS like that ever wanted to teach kids is beyond me.
I ate in a certain teacher’s room during lunch in middle school. I was well liked by teachers because I enjoyed school and behaved well. My best friend was a trouble maker because of unmedicated ADHD.
One day he comes to the classroom during lunch to see me, and the teacher goes “Oh hell no” and drags him out of the room. Confused, I go out into the hallway and see him dragging my friend down the hallway by the ear, screaming “You’re useless, and you’ll never amount to anything! Everyone knows you are garbage! Just give up!”
It felt weird because they were so nice to me, and the unmitigated aggression seemed to come out of nowhere. I didn’t understand for years that some people are just broken inside. I did stop eating there.
Anyway my friend is a successful chemical engineer now.
Yeah, ADHD is basically a cheat code for getting bullied by teachers. I had some who were great, but I can’t think of a year until high school I didn’t have at least one who clearly had a problem with me
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Happened a few times.
Uh… What? That’s the part that just doesn’t compute for me…
Ah, manic episode, that explains it. And yeah, people who are manic are prone to do things that are kinda funny when you first hear about them, but get less funny the more you know. Obviously a bad thing to do, but yeah kinda amusing, definitely mental illness.
So much discourse in this thread. I can’t believe so few people can agree that something can be both wrong and funny as fuck at the same time.
We are living in a post-nuance world.
Sounds funny, but what she did and said in the classroom was lame as hell.
She’s funny like how Trump is really funny. It’s not her actions that are funny. It’s her absurd character.
Jones, a former student at the school, is said to have scouted the premises for a week before carrying out the stunt, getting past security by blending in with other students.
She then accused of returning on a day when eight teachers were absent and ‘got lucky’ as only seven substitutes had signed in, before going to a classroom set up by another teacher, who stayed with her for 20 minutes.
However, after that teacher left she allegedly proceeded to organise students by race and gender, insult them using racial slurs and derogatory statements, and use explicit language — as well as playing loud rap music and bragging about being OK with going to jail.
A 16-year-old boy in the class told authorities that she also called one student ‘fat boy’ and told two white pupils that ‘they were the type to start school shootings’, Independent reports.
Meanwhile Fox6 News Milwaukee reported that Jones was said to have asked if any of the students had a vape or marijuana as the class ‘was so f****** lame and annoying’.
She was reportedly escorted from the school after students raised the alarm and principal Doreen Badillo became aware of what was going on.
So much security theater just to allow someone like this to waltz into a classroom to openly berate children.
Who tf has this kind of time on their hands for such petty bullshit?
Seems like the childfree communities are leaking…
Childfree communities hate parents. Children are just their poor choices manifest.
My partner has been in some child free communities and i saw a lot of people hating on kids. Most of the stories she’d relay were about kids being annoying with minimal mention of their parents.
My old boss was super into those groups and would post just vile, hateful stuff about kids.
I do think that child free groups are mostly about hating kids, in practice.
That’s very idealist of you, and that’s how it should be, but it’s not always that way
It actually is nearly always that way until parents come in to those spaces and start deliberately misinterpreting things and claiming the straw men they’ve built are saying hateful things about kids. Most parents see hate in any refusal to glaze them for their choice to become parents. And they nearly all see hate in not being impressed by or wanting to coo over their little vacation souvenirs.
I don’t have kids, likely never will given the state of the world, but the absolute vile shit I’ve seen from child free communities ensures I’ll never use that label.
Ok. Whatever you have to tell yourself.
I wouldn’t have nearly as much disdain for those communities if they focused on bad parents instead of attacking children.
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This is easily the third time today you’ve said something correct and insightful and been downvoted to hell.
The fuck is wrong with Lemmy?
The fuck is wrong with Lemmy?
This is a male-dominated space and some of them really don’t like outspoken women.
So much security theater just to allow someone like this to waltz into a classroom to openly berate children.
I don’t see the “so much” security theater you’re referring to, and it seems like she got very lucky. She appeared young enough to blend in with the other students but also appeared old enough to be a substitute teacher and had attended the high school not that long ago (and conveniently lived right across the street).
During her scouting the week prior, she “heard other staff in the main office talking about the substitute teacher agency and told the secretary she was a substitute”, so she had that established ahead of time. On the day she went into the classroom, eight of the approximately 70 teachers were absent, and one of those positions happened to be unfilled by a sub (something she couldn’t possibly have foreseen).
Incidentally, unrelated to your comment, here’s the local news source instead of the trash tabloid Metro.
Do you know what schools have implemented in the effort to cut down on school shootings?
That’s the security theater I’m talking about. The security theater that should have caught this woman. If she had a gun, there would be a lot of dead students right now.
If she had a gun, there would be a lot of dead students right now.
Milwaukee public schools use metal detectors.
This video specifically shows what Rufus King (this high school) does. You’re assuming her having a gun wouldn’t have changed this, but it would’ve. Because part of that “so much security theater” is scanning people who enter the school.
Do you know what schools have implemented in the effort to cut down on school shootings?
Yes, see the video above.
And per the school’s own admission, teachers recognized her as a former student and didn’t say anything at the time.
There’s also many ways around metal detectors, especially when the school shows that they don’t follow protocols anyway.
And per the school’s own admission, teachers recognized her as a former student and didn’t say anything at the time.
If you’re drawing that from:
Since our first communication, our initial investigation determined that this individual involved was a former student recognized by staff. [emphasis mine] She was not a substitute teacher. We did involve our Milwaukee Police Department school resource officers (SROs) the day that this occurred. The district’s Title IX coordinator was also notified. In addition to any police actions resulting from this situation, the district is continuing with its own investigation.
It seems extremely clear that what the letter is saying isn’t that the staff saw her impersonating a substitute and looked the other way; it’s that once the students reported her, staff who worked there were able to identify her as a former student.
If this isn’t what you were talking about and I’m missing something, I apologize.
I mean a former student definitely can be a substitute teacher
Schools are more secure than airports. It’s not just theatre.
She got away with a lot because people did recognize that she belonged there and she was unarmed. And she still got lucky.
even with all that, the teacher she was working with should have verified her position, I don’t know if that’s policy or not at that district, but a simple phone call to the office could have exposed her in about 20 seconds of effort, hopefully it’s policy now, usually subs are escorted to a classroom by someone from the office that verifies they are who they say they are and checks with the district office to match up their badge and ID. at least that’s how my district does it.
working for a school district it’s pretty strange it got that far. I get yelled at if I cross a campus and I don’t have a badge on
My thoughts as well! She should’ve been noticed as not belonging much earlier.
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Jones is scheduled for a preliminary court hearing on October 20 and, according to the Independent, could face a maximum 21 years in prison if she is convicted.
If only she was a child molester, she’d be out already.
This sentence should not be possible under these circumstances, unreal
However, after that teacher left she allegedly proceeded to organise students by race and gender, insult them using racial slurs and derogatory statements, and use explicit language — as well as playing loud rap music and bragging about being OK with going to jail.
A 16-year-old boy in the class told authorities that she also called one student ‘fat boy’ and told two white pupils that ‘they were the type to start school shootings’, Independent reports.
I know a lot of people are going to sound off about how they had it worse when they were a kid, but mental and verbal abuse is still abuse. It was never okay, not back then, and not now. This lady doesn’t even have the excuse of being old and worn out like many of the professionals in that field. She’s 23, doesn’t actually work in that field, just decided to show up and being abusive.
Not an excuse, but it’s likely due to bipolar disorder.
If bipolar disorder is involved, it’s still a combination of various factors.
Bipolar disorder alone doesn’t cause something like this, I’d know because I have it and I can’t imagine ever doing something like this, even in my wildest manic episodes, even though I have a pretty serious case of it.
The other factors could be anything. Some examples: trauma, co-morbid mental conditions or just being a shitty person in general. Those are just some examples, like I said, it could be anything and it’s likely the other stuff is things we probably couldn’t even think of.
I was so sure this was an onion…
maximum 21 years in prison if she is convicted.
America really does love jailing people
it’s free slavery!
It’s better than free. It is taxpayer funded slavery.
A nation completely devoid of a sense of proportionality.
That is some Roald Dahl shit right there.
Her lawyers have said she suffers from bipolar disorder
I was waiting for it, and there it is, very last line of the article.
This is clearly the behaviour of someone havinga mental health crisis
Agree to disagree. This seems like perfectly reasonable behavior.
I’ve been told of way more insane behavior by someone with bipolar.
I’m pretty sure this was what a couple of my substitutes were doing when I was in school.
Sounds much nicer than what we did to substitutes back in the day. The goal was to make them cry, but if they stormed out to go bitch about us, that was good too.
I wonder how we would have reacted to her.Anyway, it was depraved, evil, bad, omg the children, they’ll never recover from this. They should sue the school for the trama and psychological injury. So badly run the school didn’t even know who was being put in front to the students.
Im not saying its right, but after cycling to work past a school I can understand…
five counts of exposing a child to harmful descriptions
Ffs! That’s a RIDICULOUS “offense” if I’ve ever seen one 🤦🏻
I’m not saying that I condone any of the racist parts, of course, but COME ON! Harmful fucking DESCRIPTIONS?!
She’s facing 21 years.
Donald Trump could have raped everyone in that room and got 21 years less than that.
You’ve clearly never had to console a child after they were called names that cut deep to their core.
I have, and not once have I thought anybody should be arrested for it.
An adult saying those things to a child is verbal abuse.
Children are not small adults with all the same processing abilities that we have.
Tell that to my ex wife fuck both our kids up by treating them as equals and not the children they were.
I would say it straight to her face because it’s the truth.
I don’t think that’s significantly different from every fucking sub my kid has had in elementary school.
Mr. Blah said that if we didn’t stay absolutely quiet all day that instead of going to recess, he was going ot make us all do pushups.
They’re fucking first graders. go fuck yourself mr blah because empty threats aren’t going to mean shit to these kids.
one of the few subs I actually remember was a science-substitute (his specialty was biology), and he’d bring his snakes to class and let them wander about the class room and chill with the kids.
He actually cared about the kids he was teaching.
then there was the white South African sub that spent the entire class bitching about “discrimination” because she was denied scholarships for (black) South Africans affected by apartheid. she was just bitchy. (and credit to our history teachers, they found out about it and gave us an impromptu weeklong lesson on Apartheid.)
Do all white South Africans suck? I knew a guy who applied for scholarships for African Americans because he’s from Africa and he’s American, he was bitching about getting denied during the interview stage for obvious reasons. He knew that African American meant something specific that definitely excluded him, he’s just an asshole.
A lot of them have a cultural background encouraging them to suck. It’s like white people from the American southeast. Being raised in the privileged race of an extremely racist society where your family may have grievances about being forced to lose forms of political power and explicit domination can make for some really awful people (as well as some really awesome people who grow up with an internal understanding that all this shit is wrong and fighting against it).
I haven’t met all white South Africans… but, there does seem to a pattern.
Edit to add: it might just be the ones fleeing from the consequences of Apartheid rather than all; and it’s not like I’ve personally met that many of them. (But we can lump musk and trump’s “refugees” into this pattern, too)
I know a white South African who’s very chill and kind and he works with Aboriginal Australians and if you ask him nicely he’ll do magic tricks with a deck of cards and when I was having a hard time with My mental health he helped Me access a counsellor and followed up to see how I was doing afterwards.
The ones I worked with in The Netherlands and Britain didn’t seem to be a problem.
Maybe America attracts a certain kind of white South African more than those countries?!
Nah, all but one of the white South Africans I’ve met in the US have been pretty awesome. In general the people from any country that seek out other cultures are, somewhat necessarily, not the xenophobic or supremacist ones. There are always gonna be shitheads, especially when they feel they might need to “flee” their home country, but the vast majority are just nice folks that like other people (this doesn’t apply to tourists in super touristy areas - we just had a family get their kid gored because they tried to pet a bull elk in mating season and they’ve turned around and are now trying to sue the rangers for not warning them enough)
In my own experience living in other countries and knowing quite a lot of other immigrants (as people tend to more easily bond with those living similar experiences, with the result that immigrants tend to mix more with other immigrants - and not just people from the same country of origin but immigrants in general - than with the locals), people who go live in other countries out of their own choice tend to have two main kinds of drives for that and hence personalities:
- People who moved elsewhere because they actually like meeting other people from different cultures and living life in different ways than the one they grew up in, or as you said “seek out other cultures”.
- People who moved elsewhere driven by wanting to make more money and have a better life.
From what I’ve seen in a couple of countries, the former are a lot rarer than the latter, they’re also generally more open-minded people. However the latter are not at all open-minded and in my own experience are often very conservative types, possibly even more so than the locals (this is my experience both with most of my countrymen when I was an immigrant abroad and with immigrants living in my own homeland).
Anyways, what you say about you experience with South Africans in the US does match my experience with South Africans in Europe, my point is just that your broader conclusion about openness of immigrants in general does not at all match my own - most immigrants out there are of the second kind and thus they’re not at all more open minded than people in general and might even be more close minded (as I said, seen it both with my countrymen whilst living abroad and with immigrants in my homeland - and it seems to me that most immigrants are more conservative and less open minded than average, which is probably what leads some immigrants to form single-nationality communities when living abroad whilst in my experience the “seek out other cultures” kind tends to live amongst the locals).
I don’t think our experiences are contradictory - I think I perhaps under-emphasized that it was people who seek out other cultures, rather than the ones that insulate themselves from the culture they live within, that are necessarily the less-xenophobic ones. There may well be piles of immigrants that mix primarily with other immigrants and are at the same time awful people (by host culture standards), but it follows that unless we are members of that community, we’re unlikely to have ever met them. Were it a strict rule it might approach tautology (and aside from that it’s fairly good example of why anecdotal evidence is unreliable), but it does seem that our experiences are fairly closely aligned.
