Someone finally got through to Trump that Belarus has no potash to spare. All of their production is under contract.

Someone is feeding Trump fake news, and Trump is making very public announcements based on it. The bad intel, one might suspect, is designed to make Trump look foolish, having to backtrack. I wonder if that’ someone’ is Vance, who desperately wants to evict Trump from the White House after the mid-terms?

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    The price of potash has just gone up Mr Trump. Pray that I do not alter the deal any further

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    Guess I’ll just keep going with the apology tour.

    I’m sorry the dumbest among us forced this felon rapist pedophile on you guys.

    Sincerely,

    A Very Tired U.S. Citizen

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      I personally appreciate your thoughts, but you don’t need to go around telling us because I think a lot of us are tired of hearing it. Just do what you can to survive and hopefully make changes in your country. Stay strong and stay safe out there, friend.

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      FWIW we know, and if anything this community gets tired of hearing it, and kind of grumpy about it. Appreciate the thought, though!

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    “wants cheaper price” - A strategy only a stable genius could devise. 🧐 🧠 🤓

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      “ill get it from somewhere else… Give it to me cheaper!” Art of the Deal!

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    If I was Canada I wouldn’t sell jack shit to the USA. Then I’d send him a video of myself just dancing happily in a field of potash.

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      Yeah, but we kind of need/like some of the stuff you send back. Plus, if we were really aggressive, you could just invade, and then we get to live in a version of Afghanistan with an even worse climate.

      Cutting off your oil or fertilizer is an option, but it’s a card we’re saving for a long way down the road, basically. For now, we’re roughly matching whatever your government does proportionately.

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      ChatGPT, does Jack shit have potash or other fertilizer capabilities?..

      Yes, but there’s an important distinction,…

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      Fertilizer is best thought of as 3 separate products, limited by either nitrogen, phosphorous, or potassium. Plants need all 3 of them to grow.

      Your article is primarily about nitrogen fertilizers, which is usually made by processing fossil fuels. It’s possible to make nitrogen fertilizers without fossil fuels, but that’s more expensive, so the fossil fuel methods dominate.

      Canadian production of potash (potassium compounds used for fertilizer) is a different product, with different supply chains.

      Phosphorous production is dominated by China and Morocco (with some significant production by United States, Russia, Jordan, Saudi Arabia) so that’s not really in either discussion about fertilizer shortages or trade wars now.

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        Your article is primarily about nitrogen fertilizers, which is usually made by processing fossil fuels.

        Air, actually! (Well, nitrogen from air and hydrogen, which might come from fossil fuels, but that’s a relatively minor consideration)

        It’s just a really energy intensive process, so fuel is the main input in cost terms.

        Also, fun fact about phosphorus: it’s expected deposits will be depleted in a few decades. Efforts are already underway to start recovering it from sewage, instead.

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        that’s not really in either discussion about fertilizer shortages or trade wars now.

        At least not yet…

        I have every confidence in Trump’s ability to fuck that up too without understanding the consequences of his actions.

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    Respect and the ability to negotiate in good faith probably would have got lower potash prices because it would be mutually beneficial based on all trade (they get something, we get something). Oh, trump! What have you wrought?

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      Respect and the ability to negotiate in good faith probably would have got lower potash prices because it would be mutually beneficial

      The USA already buys many commodities (including potash and crude oil) from Canada at a discount from global prices.

      And, because Canada sticks to our agreements (unlike Trump’s USA), we haven’t removed that “most favored nation” discount.

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      No, 25% off the MSRP, which is 50% higher. Idiots fall for this every day. Or change the price from $396.50 to $396.48, Walmart style.

      Or charge 1/3 load price for 1/4 load, 4 is bigger than three so they will see the bargain.

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      Lets not be arbitrary here. Just add an extra 0 to whatever tarrifs Trump has on us. Then we don’t even need to change the law if he removes them.

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          Many Anglos would mistakenly that for 20%. The period is usually a comma in english. 20,000%

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            TIL, in Dutch is it exactly the opposite – comma’s are for decimals, periods for large numbers. But funnily we would agree 20.000 is 1.000 x 20,000 or 1,000 x 20.000, but not 1,000 x 20,000 or 1.000 x 20.000.

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      If I remember correctly one one of the big 3 potash companies just decided to stop selling to the US, have no idea if they are still doing the not selling action.

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    Add an export tariff to potash to the USA, until the SERVICE trade deficit is fixed! The USA has a HUGE imbalance in their favour on trade, they just choose to ignore the service sector entirely.

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      Export TAX. Tarrifs are on products entering your country to help the sales of local alternatives. Export taxes are “fuck you, that’s why” price increases on a product leaving your country because you need it or your neighbour is a dick.

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        eh, ok, if that’s the correct term, sure. From that merriam webster link –

        a schedule of duties imposed by a government on imported or in some countries exported goods

        And to highlight that Canada does use export tariff verbiage, you can look at this govt site for global affairs, where they have a resource called the Canada tariff finder, which they describe as allowing you to “Look up import and export tariff rates”

        But either way, you got the point.

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        There is most definitely such a thing as export tariffs. Just as there are import tarrifs which the orange buffoon is so find of.

        Export tariffs (potentially) slow the outgoing movement of goods. Import tarrifs (potentially) slow the incoming movement of goods.

        The end result is similar (higher end costs), it’s which government gets the $$$ that differs.

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        eh, ok, here’s the dictionary definition of a tariff, sure. From that merriam webster link –

        a schedule of duties imposed by a government on imported or in some countries exported goods

        And to highlight that Canada does use export tariff verbiage, you can look at this govt site for global affairs, where they have a resource called the Canada tariff finder, which they describe as allowing you to “Look up import and export tariff rates”

        But sure, go on and insult me for no reason.