Hold the line
Our next goal for them: 100.000 evs unsold.
Reading Tesla workers shared images from car cameras, including “scenes of intimacy” was enough to put me off Tesla. The build quality being garbage and Musk also being a garbage human being make the company just a complete waste of space.
It’s funny how that wasn’t really a problem until they found that bond underwater car in a garage recorded by a tesla and it belonged to nazi musk.
Destroys them all because unprofitable to sell, whines about major loss, demands government bailout.
Thats after they got spacex to buy a large number of them.
The Sieg Heiling Space Karen genius could not have foreseen this. Is that right?
Remember when he told his advertisers to fuck off, and then two weeks later sued them because they fucked off? That’s the depth of this man’s genius!!!
And he lost the case obviously…
It took awhile for that to get finished, but it was great to see.
That does not prove he is not a genius!!! /s
VERY popular in Germany
that salute you mean ?
Yes, although I was obviously being a bit sarcastic - but not really since there’s so many neo-nazis over here…
You got to be a special kind of asshole if you’re buying a Tesla these days.
Their Q1 sales were actually up over last year. It’s insane.
The same kind of pieces of shit that still use Twitter.
They significantly dropped the prices at the dealerships. A model 3 is now like 36k compared to 50+ last year., but I’d rather walk on glass. We bought a Ford Maverick instead.
Not only that, you sort of have to hate having money.
With the cyber trucks having shit glued on them all over the place the company just seems laughable.
If I’m putting down (potentially) luxury car money I better damned well have a luxury car.
And if you own one from before, the only responsible thing to do is sell it on the used market to reduce demand for their new cars. You might not get the price you want but come on. You could afford a Tesla; I’m not crying for your pocketbook.
I didn’t realize TSLA stock had an upward trend most of last year and is only heading downhill this year.
Or an Indian. They fucking love Tesla
Yeah it’s not just Indians:
In 2025:
According to the analysis, Tesla achieved loyalty rates of 63.6% among Asian households and 61.9% among Hispanic households. These figures exceeded national averages.
Favorability / loyalty have dropped across all groups over the past several years.
I’m in the GTA. Asians here. They fucking love Tesla’s.
Random question: GTA? Greater Toronto Area?
Yes
or Norwegian, First and third biggest selling car there
or Australian
Tesla has 35% market share in Norway.
France saw an increase in Tesla registrations by 203% year over year.
Sweden had a 144% increase in registrations. Denmark had a 96% increase.
In the US, the core demographic remains white male, ~48 years old, with a household income exceeding $140,000, particularly in conservative states (Texas/Florida).
Part of the problem is that competition is still lacking in many ways especially when it comes to charging infrastructure.
The competition is not lacking at all if you’ve been paying attention. And literally every EV brand can use Tesla chargers now.
Depends how much the average consumer is paying attention. Many probably don’t know that every EV can use the Tesla chargers now.
The competition here is certainly constrained. Most car manufacturers are making less EVs due to decreasing overall demand and expirarion of federal EV tax credits.
The real competition is on the other side of the Pacific. Europe and Canada have accepted that on some level while the US continues to artificially prop up its EV market ex-China.
There are legitimate concerns don’t get me wrong. But the US won’t be able to hide from a more dynamic and competitive product forever.
the US continues to artificially prop up its EV market ex-China.
It’s not even that: a little protectionism is normal trade policy globally. This would be fine, if it were temporary and if there was a goal to develop the domestic industry.
The real problem is the combination of protectionism, while also rejecting the technology change and shrinking down to the home market. The protectionism will stop at some point. Realistically it has to. But when it does, American legacy manufacturers will find themselves struggling to sell buggy whips to a world that sees them as museum displays. We’re trying to milk a few more years out of the legacy technology at the cost of totally ignoring the future
This is absolutely true.
Even with the advent of the Industrial Revolution, Britain initially struggled to compete with the sheer quality and cost-effectiveness of Indian hand-woven fabrics.
They instituted a 100% tariff on importation of Indian fabric to support their nascent mechanized textile manufacturing.
This allowed them to hone the machinery by creating a sandbox to grow their new expertise in. The quality could not match what was produced by hand but the sheer volume and efficiency could easily outdo manual methods.
Over time as they gained political influence, they were able to point guns at and break the thumbs of the right people in India effectively eradicating Indias domestic textile industry.
They then forced Indian markets to accept British cloth with no tariff, making that consumer sandbox bigger.
Minus the colonial / coercive economics at the end there, this is an example of Britain using tariffs very effectively to grow their own industry while taking down a global leader in textiles (one that even the Romans wrote of 1500 years prior).
May well have played out the same without supportive policy, but the protectionism certainly helped them grow their own industry faster and the violent / coercive colonial element helped them remove a traditional, higher quality though analog/manual competitor sooner.
What America is doing is more of a dying empire vibe. Protection for the sake of clinging to the old and familiar way, with no plan or strategy to adapt for the future.
Yeah, I have to say, I still see Tesla as the leader by far here in the us. And given how price of cars has skyrocketed, teslas are now also “affordable”. It’s a shame they seem to be abandoning the car market. There’s finally some EV choice but not much, half of the choice was just cancelled, and most are not good.
Rivian is our best choice for the next compelling EV, but R2 cost significantly more than Tesla.
- A lot of people online like the Equinox and it’s inexpensive, but poor efficiency, horrible software and no CarPlay. Also I’ve never seen one. GM cars in general don’t do well in my part of the US so it would be challenge to get people to see they exist
- Lucid looks great on paper and I’m excited to see their mass market vehicles in a year or two, but they e really been struggling. I hope the saudis continue to see it through
- Hyundai/Kia have been kicking ass on choice but low efficiency and still haven’t kicked their historical reputations for poor quality and easy to steal
I hope the R2 works out well. I’m not planning on getting a new car in the near future, so by the time I do, it should have all it’s kinks ironed out and be a great towing vehicle for a light camping trailer.
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Who wants to buy a vehicle that funds the fourth Reich?
The portion of my family that voted for it.
The same portion that doesn’t want an EV at all.
I think there was that brief period of interest when Trump turned the White House driveway into a car dealership ad for Elon. But yeah, you’re right. They’re all gas-fueled motorheads.
This is what I see as well. The pro-musk US group hates EVs. The pro-EV US group hates Elon. Then there’s the other 60% of the country that doesn’t have a strong enough opinion to post about it online. I am surrounded by new Teslas despite being a in very blue city metro. It’s obvious because the 3/Y got a facelift during the height of the musk/trump romance
At this point i no longer care if they lower the price until they’re free. They will have to sell them as scrap at a loss. I will never, ever, ever buy a Tesla.
Oh, don’t worry. He can just buy them from himself using taxpayer money via subsidies from his other company like he did last year. If you’re an American taxpayer, you’ve already bought one.
I will drive a free tesla
I wouldn’t even get in that unopenable-emergency-doors death trap.
Right into the ocean
At one point I was considering buying a Tesla. Then I didn’t like Musk, but felt I could justify buying a used Tesla, as it wasn’t giving him any money.
Then Nazi salute and DOGE and lol, nope. I won’t even uber a Tesla.
felt I could justify buying a used Tesla, as it wasn’t giving him any money
He’ll still get money for the subscribable services scam and dealer service.
I’d take a free Tesla. Pull the batteries and drive modules. Scrap the shell, sell the drive modules, use the batteries for home storage.
Elon couldn’t pay me to buy a Tesla. I like EVs. It’s not about the technology. It’s entirely about Elon. I’d rather buy Japanese or South Korean, thank you.
I’d rather buy a Chinese one, but mr Biden made that impossible.
i have a BYD here in Australia.
Legit, how is it? I’m Canadian and they are going to come to market here soonish.
mr Biden made that impossible.
Wait, is he still President with a majority in the House of Reps and Senate since 2025?
Thanks, Obama!
Biden put a 100% tariffs on chinese EVs, making it essentially impossible to import them. not like trump was going to roll those back
Yeah, I hate trump, but the Dems fucked this one up. Also like they’ve fucked the elections that led to trump.
Which Japanese EV? I’m not aware of any good ones.
Korean ones? Best on the market. If you want the best for a reasonable price, Hyundai or Kia.
I like the Ionic.
Best case under $50k for sure
Toyota sells a couple EV models in China for the China market not sure where thier overseas models are made…Toyota has the second biggest selling EV in Norway for example and have that model here in Australia, its actually ok, the previous version was comparatively shitty
https://www.toyota.com.au/bz4x-ev
Subaru have 2 models, a JV with Toyota.
The bz4x/bz/Solterra is still the worst EV on the road, bar none.
Worst range of all EVs, flip phone quality software center stack, and the same price as a model y. It’s nuts that anyone would buy those pieces of shit.
And they are ugly too, 0 appeal.
That one?
Nah I’d even drive a paintless dumpstertruck over that thanks
Volvo, Rivian, Kia, Chevy, Ford, plenty of ev options that aren’t negligently dangerous like Toyota’s EVs or Teslas
toyota has a couple (but I’m not sure if they are available in the US)
depends on the definition of paying. is he giving you discount, or is he paying more than the car’s worth?
if it is the latter, then i am fine keeping all the fucker’s money and set the free teslas on fire.
Well let’s not be too hasty here…
I really despise most everything about him but if Elon were to actually pay me and give me a free car I’d very likely take it. I mean I have principles but I’m not an idiot.
Yeah, you are. The fucking death traps with doors that won’t open in a crash and unless you know where the secret escape hatch is you are cremated.
Tesla just fucking lost a lawsuit about this.
Get that free asbestos sweater while you’re at it.
I thought that was just the Cybertruck, which yes, I wouldn’t drive even if someone gave me one. I’d flip it and buy something else.
I think both the sedan and roadster are okay electric cars, and I think they have enough range I could use them to reduce the amount of gas I burn in my Volt for longer trips.
But, I haven’t really been paying attention to Tesla recently, and Elmu has certainly been looking horrible to me.
The problem is the door locks are electric, so if the car loses low voltage power, the buttons to open the doors no longer work. Worse yet, the Model 3 only has emergency physical latches in the front seats, so good luck in the back, kids.
They’re already sitting on them, they should finish the job and shove them right up their asses.
Isn’t that like 50k x 20k$ (rough costs estimate) = 1B$ of slowly realizing losses?
Most car dealers have months of inventory, Tesla typically has a couple weeks or less. In the grand scheme of things compared to other automakers this is actually tiny, and they are usually on the bottom of the list of OEM inventory.
For Tesla though, this is higher than usual, and unless most of them are in transit to customers, indicative of an issue.
Edit: Just for reference.
Q4 2024 - 12 days
Q1 2025 - 22 days
Q2 2025 - 24 days
Q3 2025 - 10 days
Q4-2025 -15 days
Its not very much, Chrysler had over a million vehicles in stock 18 months ago.
Noe I am curious how much quicker batteries degrade being idle than ICE engines.
How did that happen? When I worked at the Fremont plant, we were only putting together vehicles that had already been sold. Did they swap from lean manufacturing to the normal, wasteful “just keep making shit perpetually” model? 🤔
They are cashing in production tax incentives and cooking the books. GM did the same thing 2008 before it all collapsed.
Elon was hoping everyone would just forget his antics.
GM did the same thing 2008 before it all collapsed.
Along with financial chicanery, the only part of GM that was profitable was GMAC. Their shitty cars are loss-leaders for a predatory finance operation.
Tesla in Canada has parking lots full of cars they registered to grab and incentive, then the CDN government told them to fuck off. Meanwhile, the cars just sit and rot. Tesla is trying to sue, but they don’t stand a chance.
Tesla is already half what it was in 2024. it will be dead as a car company by end of 2027, about the time multiple internet satellites will have been launched to kill starlink.
He’s trying to wrap it all under SpaceX and walk away with a bag when it goes public.
Hail Tesla model SS
I thought Tesla was going to start building robots, instead of cars.
/somewhat sarcastically
This is my stupid fucking friend who can’t get off Elons nuts at all. It’s fucking sad. He literally bought a model Y the other day despite me telling him Rivian is about to release a competitor because he thinks he can add it to the robo taxi fleet in a year or two. God I love him and am sick of this shit.
To be fair, we will have full self driving by the end of the year, according to Elon every single year for the last decade.
Now we will have robots by the end of the year.
Facts.
This anecdote provides insight to Tesla’s remaining sales strategy. Like the stock itself, all there appears to be is hype and promise.
I have one of those
friendsacquittances. Glow in his eyes when he talks about Elons great deeds. He also just bought a Y-model, because Elon was treated unfairly, even though he’s in large debt due to a grand business opportunity that went south.To be fair, I’m waiting on the R2 as well, but I’m strapping in for first generation fit and finish issues galore. Rivian hasn’t surpassed Tesla in software or aftermarket flexibility.
Not to mention, we probably won’t be able to take delivery until late this year despite paying for a reservation from this past March.
Surpass Tesla in software?
Most of us want less software not more
That’s why everyone is so hyped about Slate. Less of this garbage is a paid feature these days.
That’s why everyone is so hyped about Slate.
No one is hyped about Slate. Europe has better EVs for less already.
file Slate along with:
Canoo
Bollinger
Aptera
Nikola
Telo
and another dozen bullshit US EV companies.
Surpass Tesla in software?
What? No fart button on the tablet?
The slate software is in no way going to be the industry standard. Car manufacturers are all looking to create parasitic software for their cars.
Slate is DOA based solely on how terrible the range will be.
Slate is a good niche, its range is fine for the purpose its supposed to fill
Imagine a fleet of them for a lawncare business paired with a 30-42" standup electric mower rig
Cost of operations would be dittly squat, could be further buffered with solar and replacememt parts dirt cheap. Roi would be extremely quick and then it’d be pure profits
People are already doing that with used Teslas pulling trailers (yeah its funny to see, but the people doing it have shown their numbers and its pretty nuts)
Whats not fine about the Slate is no awd version. On an EV it’s a minimal endeavor to make that work so there’s really no excuse
Having experienced awd I will never personally own another vehicle without it if I have a choice. Especially a truck. My driving conditions are way too harsh to not have it
Whats not fine about the Slate is no awd version. On an EV it’s a minimal endeavor to make that work so there’s really no excuse
AWD is only a thing in stupid vehicle designs where they put all the weight up front, and the drive wheels at the back.
An EV truck has proper weight distribution, AWD would offer no advantage, just add weight and cost more.
Awd/4x4 is an integral option for those of us who need it. Its not a gimmick, its not a nice to have. Its an it better have one or the other, or its not an option
It’s the difference between getting up your drive in bad weather and parking at the end of a 3 mile long dirt road drive and walking home from there, in the dark at the end of a long day, through woodlands in which wild animals are not infrequent visitors, and presumably on top of all of that in markedly bad weather events
A truck, and especially an EV that must be plugged in to charge so you can drive the +70 miles to the nearest town if needed after driving that far to get home doesn’t live up to its name or need if it doesn’t get you to home or from 999/1,000 times you needed it to
The long range model’s EPA range is 240mi, so 120mi while towing, more like 100mi considering that you absolutely cannot run an EV 100 to 0, and that’s best case scenario. That maximum 100mi is not enough for a day of landscaping.
Not talking about towing
Talking about a bedspace only, 1-2 man crew setup
A Bobcat ZS4000 Stand-On Mower 48″ is a 64" long mower for example, so it should juuuust fit in there, but to be safe I mentioned smaller, though personally if I were to do something like this I’d want a greenworks electric, costs half as much as the truck
For sure, you’d see a range drop, but it shouldn’t be anywhere near as severe as pulling a trailer
A small standon, a ramp to get it on and off the truck, a rack with a trimmer, edger, hedger, blower, pruner, mini chainsaw, maybe a delta powerbank or gas generator to recharge the tools as you drive about or they’re in standby
I’d expect a drop in range about 25-30% with that but not as severe as a pull behind trailer
~130-150 miles of range is doable if you plan the route and cluster clients, which any Semi-competent business owner who could afford a fleet of these would be capable of doing or paying someone to manage the routes
