Turns out all you need is a Supreme Court majority on your side and you can wipe your ass with the Constitution.

  • Formfiller@lemmy.world
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    What about this memo that says they can’t? It also states we can bear arms to protect ourselves from tyranny so… check mate Nazis

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      Its not, but if you are going to Home Alone a bunch of ICE agents illegally entering your house, please record that shit. If its funny enough the jury will absolutely not convict you.

      Imagine those fucks stepping on toy cars and sliding down a stairwell or being hit with powdered sugar and then set on fire.

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    "ICE says its officers can forcibly enter homes . . . "

    I’ve got a gun that says they can’t.

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    Turns out all you need is a Supreme Court majority on your side and you can wipe your ass with the Constitution.

    Same as it’s always been, they’re just being more brazen about it

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    They will absolutely come for the guns next. Once the population is disarmed the civil war will begin. Martial law. Police state. No privacy protections. All amendments abolished. Civil rights act abolished. Military checkpoints at all state borders. Reinstated draft. 10% inflation. 20% unemployment. Reeducation centers. Prison work camps. State takeover of media. Iron curtain. Restricted Internet.

    This year. Get out while the borders are open.

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      Don’t got the money for that. My best option is to fight, provided the people of my state are also willing to die for a better future.

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        Prisoners are profitable and will only become increasingly profitable as they start using them as slave labor, which is specifically allowed under the Constitution. Only chattle slavery was abolished. When they are no longer subject to being voted out of office there is every incentive in the world to arrest people.

        So new executive order: we gotta stop all the school shootings therefore all guns are illegal. Gun owners will be required to turn in their weapons in exchange for a pennies on the dollar buyback. These weapons will then be sold by the government to who the fuck knows. This will be followed by a house to house compliance check where you either produce your receipt or submit to a warrantless search. Anyone caught with a weapon will be sent to a prison work camp making iPhones and drones. Simple as that.

        Oh you want to fight back? Bueno, now you’re a terrorist. This justifies further military presence in your town and seizure of all of your assets. You will be lucky if your family isn’t required to pay upfront for your prison stay.

        I am not being naive. I am being real. I am an American but I was not educated in the American school system. I understand what is happening because it has happened a thousand times to a thousand other countries. There is a standard operation of events and we are following a textbook march into dictatorship.

    • Aermis@lemmy.world
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      4 hours ago

      Other than the black Panthers ain’t nobody already with guns doing anything right now.

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    Turns out all you need is a Supreme Court majority on your side and you can wipe your ass with the Constitution.

    Obviously. That is the whole point of the Supreme Court. The surprising thing is that there wasn’t more public concern when Trump selected his sycophant judges.

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    So just to be clear. The EPA cannot make regulations despite full congressional authority to do so because that is “creating law” without a direct legislative process. But ICE, an agency that doesn’t even have real law enforcement powers, can just ignore the fourth amendment entirely because the president said so?

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      The answer to that is, legally no. However, that doesn’t stop them from doing it illegally.

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        Which by DEFINITION, would not include Un-Constitutional behavior. No violation of the Constitution could ever be construed as an “Official Act.”

        No SCOTUS had ever put guardrails on the president in almost 250 years, but this SCOTUS reinforced that he has immunity for “Official Acts,” and nobody realizes that they just put guardrails on the presidency for the first time.

        Everybody thinks it gives him immunity for EVERYTHING while he is president, but they specifically said “Official Acts,” which would be those outlined in the Constitution. Anything deemed Un-Constitutional, would not be an “Official Act,” and he would not have immunity, just like any other citizen.

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          Guardrails? I think you should re-read their decision again. They gave him protection because until now even official acts didn’t necessarily protect the president. And now, it doesn’t matter what illegal thing he does as long as it’s part of an official act. ANYTHING. Because as long as it’s part of an official act they can’t even question it. And they didn’t even provide a list of what constitutes an official act.

          So they literally put the president above all laws provided he can tie it back to some vague notion of an official act.

    • Abundance114@lemmy.worldBanned from community
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      The EPA cannot make regulations… But ICE, an agency that doesn’t even have real law enforcement powers, can just ignore the fourth amendment entirely because the president said so?

      Today you learned the difference between creating regulations and enforcing existing regulations, congrats.

      If ICE violates your 4th amendment rights shutup and enjoy your multimillion dollar lawsuit. If you aren’t entitled to said lawsuit then your rights weren’t violated.

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      EPA could absolutely just ignore the law when making regulations. It wouldn’t even need any congressional authority. It just makes the law and when someone sues them, the judge says “nah, it’s okay with me” and that’s it.

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      Not really. Remember Wilhoit’s Law:

      “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”

      When they do it, its castle doctrine and qualified immunity and civil rights. When anyone else does it its terrorism. Your comment makes me think you haven’t fully digested the situation and still think the US is a nation of laws. If so, you are gravely mistaken.

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        You misunderstand. People will enforce the Castle Doctrine long before this gets to SCOTUS.

        They already are, actually. I watched a video yesterday of a guy who said what he would do with his Second Amendment if ICE kicked in the door, and of course they ran away.

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          This is what the bootlickers in this thread seem to be missing… the first time it happens, all the rest of the ICE cosplay pussies are going to think twice before they create the circumstances for it to happen again. Death doesn’t care about what the court says a year later.

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          Castle Doctrine the personal principle, yes. Castle doctrine the law that is upheld in court when unidentified masked men without a warrant bust into someone’s home, get shot in the face and the courts respect the law as written even when it turns out after the fact it was ICE? Well, I’ll believe it when I see it.

      • whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        There’s no justice under the Robert’s court. There wasn’t any before the Robert’s court, but there isn’t any now either.

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          Yes. It’s not binary, but a scale that keeps sliding further and further down the savagery of an uncivilized shithole.

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      Sure doesn’t. And since we’re not abiding by laws anymore there’s no reason for the people to keep playing fair. I wonder if they’re ready for booby trapped doors?