you skipped “economists”, the holiest of storytellers.

you don’t need to believe everything you read on the Internet to build a worldview from screenshots of tweets. there is no contradiction

you don’t need to read every line if you trust your package maintainers

I use Debian btw

it does, but it is insufficient to prove it.

bacteria, fungus, plants, protozoa, and (arguably) viruses are all alive, too. bed bugs. rattlesnakes. being alive isn’t actually that special, nor a reason, in itself, to refrain from eating or killing that thing.

you shouldn’t treat animals like smartphones, either. you treat different things differently.

they weren’t things. treating them like things is part of what made that wrong.

and treating animals like people is also wrong.

every human being is actually something and not someone

no, and this makes no sense

didn’t you try the directory I linked?

it’s slavery. no need to soften it

https://matrixrooms.info/

yea. I don’t use fluffy chat, I just use element, but it’s definitely searchable. there’s also a directory… let me dig it up

https://matrix.to/#%2F!GPQBPHOaOHUswTPQla%3Amatrix.org%3Fvia=mozilla.org&via=matrix.org&via=tchncs.de

we use matrix

the one that talks shit on so-called third parties is basically all conjecture and poorly interpreted academics.

eating meat doesn’t cause people in the meat industry to do anything. they get to choose what they do.

if I died today there is no reason for me to believe any industry would get smaller as a result, and I would of course stop purchasing everything.

there are more vegans now more than ever, and more meat produced. being vegan doesn’t decrease the size of the industry.

whether I do or not, the industry continues to grow.

obviously we disagree. i hold them accountable for their actions regardless.