But that’s not the topic? I wish MGTOW would just go their own way already instead of pestering everyone with their bullshit.

Where in the study did they wrote that?

Yeah, I don’t know. I feel much more sorry for the girls and women who get hit by that hatred. And they definitely do. Online and sometimes offline as well. I see it in school (in Germany) how some boys as young as 12 already bought into the incel narratives and treat the girls accordingly. This has to be stomped out.

She was an old woman in the democratic party. That’s three things a lot of people on the internet hate. Since most agree she was a politician not fit for her job anymore they can go all out with the insults without getting too much backlash.

How are you helping the victims?

Because a lot of the people here never were the victim of a crime and think they never will be. Crime is something that happens “to others”. Especially sex crimes like rape is something people here feel especially apologetic for. Those poor rapists… I wonder why that is.

Rape is always violence.

Which “economic environmental conditions” lead to rape?

What are your thoughts on how to actually prevent crime? What is your plan for the victims? What should happen with the people who have been tortured, raped or killed by the criminals you care so much about? What about the children, parents, friends, loved ones of the victims?

What is your plan on how to protect victims?

Someone who tortures (including rape) or kills other people should not be allowed back into society, in my opinion. We can’t just continue to tell all the victims “Ah well, shit happens!”

But in one case the victim is a person with feelings and in the other case it’s a tree. I find it quite concerning that people seem to struggle to see the difference.

He looks too happy and to pretty, this did not bode well with Turkish police!

No, I am really not that good in English. I often realise people understand it slightly different than what I meant. But I can’t do anything about it lol

That’s what you take from it? No, I think there should be no reports or articles or mentions on any cases that have not yet been decided upon by a court. A private’s persons life is not ruined by an accusation because it almost never leads to a conviction, regardless of whether they are guilty or not.

What? No, what I mean is that it was known how people were increasingly aligning their opinions to the right for probably more than a decade now. Especially in exactly those areas which now voted for AFD. But instead of doing anything about it then, it was washed aside with: “Eh well it’s all Nazis there anyway! What a bunch of idiots!” and that was it.

Again and again there was the occasional article where all people agreed upon how bad those people are and for a while perhaps being called right-wing or Nazi had some weight in persuading people they should seriously question their opinions. But without any further action, I wonder what people were thinking how this would prevent those people from voting a party like AFD further down the line?!

Now some of them are already at a point where they will just proudly agree that they are right-wing or conservatives. What a surprise.

Depending on how it works out with the AFD in that town, I am sure people in similar places are watching closely. This can escalate quickly. I believe, when this doesn’t turn out as a complete desaster for the town, a kind of domino effect will happen and more people will feel comfortable voting for the AFD. I mean, they are already branded as right-wing Nazis, why not vote accordingly? When a 60 yo village dweller finds he agrees with some of the points the AFD makes and that makes him right-wing, perhaps being right-wing is a good thing? That’s how people work and we need to step in at that point and not wait for a miracle of them suddenly making a mental U-turn.

It’s also important to remember that this is how most abuse cases work out. There is almost never enough evidence because it is almost impossible to proof beyond reasonable doubt. It’s incredibly rare that someone gets convicted in an abuse case, no matter if they actually committed abuse or not. The victim has to basically stand in court with the gunk and fingerprints of the perpetrator still on them and video material that shows it wasn’t self-defense from the other side, for any conviction to actually happen.

What bias?

A huge chunk of feminists are pereptrating hatred of men and are praised for that?

I don’t think we share a reality. Unless with a “huge chunk” you mean one hateful twitter post by one individual or whatever you are referring to.

Otherwise please show to me a few examples where feminists perpetuate hatred towards men. Otherwise I assume you were tricked by some Andrew Tate video into believing there is a conspiracy against men by female raptors in the shadows or something.

So you feel like whenever people talk about how there are unrealistic body standards for women they also have to mention and talk about unrealistic body standards for men.

But at the same time you complain about feminists allegedly talking about feminist issues in discussions about men’s issues.

I feel like something doesn’t sound right with that logic…