So I’m not going to argue because again, I said: I understand where the sediment comes from.

I want to address what concerns me about this type of agression. When someone does something for so long, it becomes part of their personality, their being. So insulting the military can come off as insulting the person rather than the role/entity. Especially for Americans, who do not have much outside of propaganda being fed from every angle and barely an education, many barely read anymore. If they can barely critically think, do you think they’re at fault or are they raised/trained to just believe it? This is the general population, not elite class who have better education purposely.

The middle class in American just a mean of the lower class and upper class, the stat you’re referencing is basing it around any household 50-100K - household, which means two parent income. So two parents making 50K would be low income in my opinion because each person is making 25K which is about 12 an hour. The lower percent was 85K and up I think showing that below 85K in an household leads to more enrollment in military. It’s just that the phrase “middle class” doesn’t exist like it used to as prices have rose and driven that class further down. This study even polled and it shows similar in 2025 so I’m supporting the data you read with the thought that people are surviving well on 80K and below. The main statistic that I want to point at is a majority joined for money and education.

Many soldiers also endorsed “pecuniary” motivations (i.e., 88.3% wanted to earn money, 81.2% wanted to obtain educational benefits

Now to touch on that part about class, the elite class has no law to follow in the US. You’ve seen it, we’ve all seen it. So why bring up Epstein? It’s linked but not relevant to what we’re speaking about. Yes, he’s a criminal and a pedophile and deserved to be punished to death but that doesn’t relate to poverty stricken individuals who I referenced resorting to a life of crime by societal standards. This type of conversation diversion is used by right-wingers like Jordan Peterson and the rest of the grifters to avoid talking about the actual point. Again, it’s reactionary - you’re using pedophilia crime from the elite to compare to poverty related crime which is galaxies away on a morality spectrum. Killing someone from being on the brink of death for a way to survive is different than owning an island and sex trafficking humans. The reason is to get a reaction in the moral play. You can read why it’s reactionary due to the chain of you acknowledging the relation of poverty to crime and military by stating the statistic of the military being middle class so why mention a upper class criminal again?

Again, I understand your sediment. I’d just rather work towards deprogramming others who may be leaving the military or whatever relation to it with some grace in conversation (mostly in real life as this is what online banter is nowadays and probably always has and will) rather than attacking and letting the right (that can be reasoned with, I know some can’t be reason with) grow larger due to more alienation.

While I get what you’re meaning, I am going to ask a question: do you treat criminals the same?

The way you see military, many of whom are from low income without many means of survival, as monsters because they join a government system that promises social services that harms so many. So a means to an end.

A criminal will steal or murder for similar reasons a person joins the military - except instead of social services, they’re taking what they need to survive. So do you think they deserve humiliation and degradation? Heck, prison food is similar.

Both are forced into making morally wrong choices that affect others outside of themselves but instead of anger at the system that creates these situations, you insult the people. It’s reactionary.

This from someone who knows multiple leftists who changed because of the military. So I see belittling them online as counterproductive to any type of coalition being made as it separates them from others who may hold similar if not the same beliefs.

Similar story.

I make music and keep exploring all the ways I can creatively express myself in a medium that I only halfway know (still studying scales constantly but that’s ADHD) but I started in audio engineering, that just became sound design then I decided to make electronic hip hop and since I live in the south - I decided to rap on it. I plan on learning to sing this year as well just to expand my skills.

All in all, I’ve made enough to support the hobby and have met my favorite musicians from networking and weirdly enough, might collab one day soon but I still won’t make a lot from it but younger me would love my music so I release it.

I work in sales as my day job which isn’t doing hot due to tariffs and shit, so I may have to figure out how to make money in music one day soon haha.

Wolf pack mental made home in the snowcaps

Neural paths stray from the roadmap

We’re all just the same in our own way

Dad used to tell me be grateful there’s so many others

Who would trade anything for your low days

I keep that in mind when I hold pain

Eyes Wide Shut by Sadistik

These bars lately are helping me go on in life.

I scrolled to find Aes’ - I wasn’t disappointed.

Aesop Rock, Andre 3K, Lupe Fiasco and Sadistik are four lyricists who rotate in my life depending on mood.

Thank you so much! I should have just looked into it myself but it felt daunting as I’m new to it all but really want to own my own data and media again.

Do you have any information that could help me understand how to self-host my own music streaming using jellyfin? I’ve been meaning to learn this as I’m over Apple’s last increase.

While I don’t support WiseCrack anymore, the YouTube channel is how I found him. It has his past work on it still (I believe) but his new channel by just his name is great as well and more up to date.

Shout out for Benn Jordan as I’d say similar and add in Michael Burns for philosophy and politics.

This pulls in the philosophy of what makes someone “themselves” - is it memory, body, or “soul”. Technically, twins look the same so body could be ruled out that way but I do understand what you mean. I also tend to think of body as a vehicle in this life and not me, just like a car I got given in life. I didn’t choose my body, it’s just what I got given. My personality though - my morals, my believes, etc… that I do consider myself and who “I” am. An argument could be made that as you “craft” your personality or you - it is similar to working out and crafting your body into “you” but some people can’t do that with the cards they were dealt - so I’ll digress.

I just dig the philosophical conversation to be had here.

Well, tell us who this is so we can support the real ones!

Sorry to excite like that. I remember hearing him say Apple Cider took him out for a week and I referenced that.

Good news is he’s experiencing mental issues, so hopefully people will stop listening to a man who abused drugs until his brain could only recognize fear.

And Jordan Peterson is a strung out dated talking head who got taken out by some apple cider.

I can see this comparison a bit.

I enjoyed Get Out a lot and my second favorite would be Nope. I wanted to love Us but it felt very loosely written.

Get Out is probably his best due to the subject matter, Nope is a good commentary on animal abuse for spectacle but I definitely see the repeating pattern similar to M Night’s “twist” motif. The big difference is Peele’s films hit more than M Night’s do, where a majority of his failed to stick the landing. Time will tell if he ends up similarly.

Cregger is another comedy writer turned horror director that may end up better, the new RE seems promising and I feel Weapons and Barbarian are amazing films.

I’m a novice musician, producer, and sometimes rapper because I can’t sing for shit but I agree.

An album is like a film to me, songs are scenes and they fit because it’s a piece of a bigger story. My favorite hip hop albums are The Cool by Lupe Fiasco and APOS by Cunninlynguists (it flips to their newer two sometimes) but I love those so much because they tell stories (they’re technically concept albums) and feel great by themselves too. So on the opposite side, it’s hard to make an album that is cohesive together and amazing individually. Not all artists are that impressive.

I hate the shortening of songs and even I have fallen to it but I feel good musicians try to make good albums and not just singles. Doesn’t even have to be a concept album. I really like Kendrick’s last two albums, prior more than latter as the beef will age the latter but flow is also important.

I can talk forever on this but it may just be a sign of the times changing art for the worst.

Same man who said he’d murder the entire population on social media.

Can’t play high road when the other person’s road is underground.

Sadly, I’m still trying to get to making something new. Decided to engineer a friend’s 17 track album and got distracted.

I am inspired by Jam2Go’s work with them though. So I plan to try out the hyper pop style with one soon!

So many people asked “Why not Opera?” When I jumped off the AI browsers.

This. This is why. Didn’t trust em.

Where would I start learning about this?

I’ve been wanting to stop using samples for vocals (copyright protections be damned, I just dislike jumping to a Splice sample or pack a friend shared) and I was debating on a vocaloid but also I make future garage and rap over it so my genre is already a weird mix lol

Edit: nvm, I see you did provide links. Gonna try it out!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_nature

Appeal to Nature fallacy. MAHA runs on this and a lot of thinking that leads to the alt-right, so good on calling this out.

I used to live in a very “crunchy” area with hippies and would catch weird speaking points occasionally, it picked up over the last few years and now they’re all MAHA or adjacent.