These are showerS thoughts, you are breaking the rules douche-bag
Kohler is shit now. Like equity firm enshittified shit. The last 3 products I’ve bought from them have been defective and unusable, including a toilet costing more than 1k. The lid stopped working on the first day. I tell everyone now, stay the fuck away from that company.
This is purely anecdotal but I’ve had maybe three issues with a Moen faucet over the years, and I’ve never ever even once talked to a customer service representative. Their reply to my support email is just a shipping notification for the replacement part. That’s it, that’s the whole interaction. Won me right over.
Can’t believe I’ll be the first who write it there
Finally, shower thoughts
What’s also helped me is ripping the regulator out
fuck delta with a rusty knife.
all their products require special tools and parts to service.
If you are talking shower heads I have no opinion, if you are talking toilets then Flushmate is the only choice.
They’re posting thoughts about showers. Shower thoughts.
Just giving my thoughts on showers.
FWIW I worked maintenance for a very large apartment community and at least 20 years ago the MOEN cartridges were very nearly bulletproof. They’re what I retrofitted into my house when I bought it.
I have their kitchen faucet in my current place and in my last, both were great and I have no complaints.
I’m reasonably sure this is about shower heads. Not that it should change your answer other than the cartridge bit though.
Nicely done.
You got me completely. I’ve been banning spammers all day (I’m working on some mod tools that help identify some that fell through the cracks and should help us respond to reports better going forward), so my first reading was “Spammer?” lol.
Thank you for a very much needed laugh!
Kohler is never getting a kopeck of my money.
We put in a fancy one-piece Kohler toilet in the ~2000s.
Never flushed well because it was an early low-flow model and clesrly built for looks instead of functionality. The design provided no purchase for easily removing the seat for replacement, even with the special tool they provided for the task.
We finally broke down and replaced it with an American Standard which at least flushes well.
Fuck Kohler. I need a control board for my generator and Kohler just says tough shit bucko. And NOS are like $600, for what was a $20 part. I can buy a new generator for that much. So now I can either go through the board and check half a dozen relays in a clusterfuck of nonsense or sell it for scrap.
Upvote for kopeck
We need to get rid of the fifty dollar cartridges and return to the glorious days of the 10cent rubber washer. I can’t believe we took this step.
I went with a Moen for my shower head. It was *fine *. Nice shower thought, lol.
The largest Chinese rain head with an extension for me, going on five years no issues. Just don’t forget the wall brace and restrictor if you have low water pressure.
I’m planning to do a period renovation of my mid-century bathroom and have been looking for new-old-stock Kohler Triton (not “Triton Bowe”) sink and shower hardware. Just my luck that the stuff gets made for 60 years and then discontinued right before I want it!
The main reason I picked that specific style instead of a Delta or Moen is that the aftermarket makes cool ‘atomic’ handles for them:
atomic handle
I’ve already got the hardware for the sinks, but I’m stuck trying to decide between traditional two-knob controls for the shower vs. a Kohler Rite-Temp single lever valve. The Rite-Temp is “better,” but the two separate knobs would be more period-correct. Anybody have opinions?
traditional valves
Rite-Temp
Mixers are the standard now, I don’t hate them but I prefer taps in a shower specifically, if I was going taps ceramic disc spindles are nice in a quarter or half turn.
If you’re going to be using the shower, then what you prefer!
I love the look of the traditional style but dislike using them for getting the temp wher i like it, so if it were me it would be the rite-temp.
Speakman ftw
