• kurmudgeon@lemmy.world
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    Looks like Russia sending all their men to the meat grinder on the front lines of Ukraine is having a major impact.

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    To make it slightly more interesting look at the edges. I’m not saying it’s related to religion but at least there is a correlation

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        That’s definitely a factor for Eastern Europe, but so is alcoholism and heart disease as the article mentions.

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      countries were man either die at war or emigrate vs countries with high % of immigrant labor, but woman rather not go

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      Religion? I think it’s more a geographical thing. The only country that doesn’t share a border with an other member of its table is Maldives. These countries share far more than a religuon.

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          Interesting BBC article about the shortage of men in Latvia: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-11493157

          The article boils it down to a combination of poverty/unemployment and toxic macho culture, which leads men to depression, alcohol abuse, and risky behavior. Suicide rates are the highest in the EU, and over 80% of those suicides are men. Latvia has the highest proportion of single mothers in the EU.

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      Nah, it’s largely driven by poverty and war and traditional gender roles. Men move abroad looking for work, leaving their wives back home to maintain the rest of the family. Men seek a temporary escape from poverty by abusing alcohol and drugs, or engaging in other high-risk activities. Men die fighting in the military.

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      Also interesting that every country in the extreme, is a country I would never choose to visit as a tourist.

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      These are cultural spheres and i suspect that’s the driver. Both religion and male:female ratios are downstream of culture, so of course religion and gender ratios correlate.

      Iran’s 103 is especially telling - a gulf state, as muslim a nation as any of the other overwhelming male gulf states, but with thousands of years of persian cultural heritage seperating them from their predominantly arab neighbours.

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    Its interesting how in conversation and online discussion China is often given as an example of a country that has a significant gender imbalance, due to the impact of some of its policies over previous decades, but all things considered its gender ratio doesnt really seem that imbalanced, especially compared to some other countries that are not as commonly cited as having that problem, like Malaysia.

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      One thing not captured on this chart is relative age distribution. If all the women are 60+ and all the men are 20-30, there’s still a major issue.

      I have no data either way but it could be why the conversation still exists around China despite the ratio appearing relatively close to balanced.

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    Statistic is kinda weirdly chosen: 200 men : 100 women is the same as 100 men : 50 women, yet the graphic would treat one of these as twice as extreme as the other (+100 vs -50).

    Granted, for values close to 100 this doesn’t distort much.

    Clarifying example:

    For example, suppose we had 100 men and 100 women distributed in 2 countries. If we put 60 men with 40 women in country A and 40 men with 60 women in country B, this statistic would report: A: 150 men : 100 women B: 67 men : 100 women

    And it would color the excess of men a darker blue than the excess of women (because one is +50 from 100, while the other is -33; note the spacing on their gradient). This would make it seem like there’s net more men than women, which is not true.

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      That doesn’t matter in this graph because everything is using the same base value comparing to 100. It would only be a problem if different countries had different denominators

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        That assumes comparison across country is all that folks see in the graph; but one could also read this from a gender-wars kinda lens. From that perspective, this would inflate the apparent # of men per woman if one averages over countries.

        For example, suppose we had 100 men and 100 women distributed in 2 countries. If we put 60 men with 40 women in country A and 40 men with 60 women in country B, this statistic would report: A: 150 men : 100 women B: 67 men : 100 women

        And it would color the excess of men a darker blue than the excess of women (because one is +50 from 100, while the other is -33; note the spacing on their gradient). This would make it seem like there’s net more men than women, which is not true.

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          Oh yeah, I get what you mean now. Because of the way percentages work, it looks more impressive going up than going down; when comparing the percentages against each other. It would have been clearer to show % of population male vs female.

          Using their numbers: Qatar being the most extreme in men-heavy, has 249.9 men per 100.0 women; which could instead be displayed as 71.4% men and 28.6% women.

          Moldova being the most extreme women heavy, has 85.1 men per 100.0 women; which could instead be displayed as 46.0% men and 54.0% women.

          If we take the median (most countries seem to have more women than men), Uganda has 98.5 men to 100.0 women; which instead could be written as 49.6% men and 50.4% women.

          The site makes it look like men are going extinct in most places, and are extremely disproportionality clustered around certain locations; when reality is not that extreme. A 0.8% population gender swing in the median country isn’t an interesting article, though; so I get why they presented it in this way.