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HLMenckenFan@lemmy.world to News@lemmy.world · 3 years ago

Greg Abbott faces more backlash as migrant child dies on bus: "Barbaric"

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Greg Abbott faces more backlash as migrant child dies on bus: "Barbaric"

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HLMenckenFan@lemmy.world to News@lemmy.world · 3 years ago
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One Democratic strategist said that the Texas governor "shouldn't be sued, he should be prosecuted" over his treatment of migrants.
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  • Motavader@lemmy.world
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    He won’t stop because the cruelty is the point

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      That’s disingenuous.

      The point is to seem like he’s got a plan for the migrant crisis by bussing them out of state.

      And if he sends them to Blue states where services are better for undocumented migrants, isn’t that better for the individuals? Or would they really be better off in Texas?

      Regardless, my point is, if you don’t try to understand why your political opponent is doing something, you’ll never be able to fix anything.

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        this is disingenuous.

        if abbot wanted to reduce the suffering of migrants he would coordinate with sanctuary cities to better allocate resources.

        suffering is the goal.

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        Yes, his plan is to be cruel.

        Hitler had a plan to solve the financial crisis by oppressing jews. Is it disingenuous to say the cruelty was the point? Should we actually be talking about Hitler’s terrible economic ideas?

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          To be fair, it WAS a pretty terrible long term economic plan to attempt to systematically murder huge swaths of your citizenry.

          It is just that the moral, ethical, humane, etc horrors of that direction are much more important.

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        Regardless, my point is, if you don’t try to understand why your political opponent is doing something, you’ll never be able to fix anything.

        I agree, but there’s not much more “understanding” necessary when we’re dealing with child death. If nothing gets fixed after this, then what’s left to try to understand?

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        Why won’t anybody think of poor Greg!!!

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    I don’t understand why the federal government allows these buses (or chartered planes, or whatever) to continue. Since it involves crossing state borders, don’t the feds have jurisdiction?

    I don’t know what the passengers were told in this instance, but in other cases, people were lied to. They agreed to go because were told they would be getting jobs and homes. I don’t think they would have voluntarily gone if they were told the truth - “we’re going to dump you somewhere as a political stunt. We’re not giving them any prior notice, so it’s anyone’s guess as to how you and your family will be taken care of. We don’t care, because to us, you’re not people. You’re just tools we’ll use to own the libs.”

    When some creep lures a kid into a van with the promise of candy, and then drives them halfway across the country, we call it kidnapping. Why hasn’t anyone been prosecuted?

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      IIRC it’s being worked on. I think they’re working on builing a case.

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        I certainly hope so! Thanks!

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    A child died while he was trafficking immigrants. Why is he not in a federal prison?

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      Enough republicans support this and many republicans coming from out of state are keeping Texas red.

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      Because he’s a Republican and the DOJ would have to care

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    As the conservatives cheer…

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    I don’t think the online backlash matters. The real question is if Abbott is receiving any backlash in Texas and it appears probably not much, if any. Texans need to step up here and they don’t seem to be doing that.

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          This but unironically

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      Not.All.Texans.

      But most of their voters sadly.

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      Blue areas tend to be disgusted with his actions, red don’t care at best or think, “well that’s what they get trying to cross illegally”. The problem however, is that the districts are gerrymandered like crazy and the actual polling places tend to disproportionately be in Republican areas, which makes it hard for Democrats to get a real hold anywhere they don’t already have control of. Additionally, the Democrats really feel like they aren’t sending their best. Iirc Beto didn’t originally want to run for governor, but he did because all the other options were so bad that very few people even knew who they were.

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    Mission accomplished from his voters’ perspective.

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    @HLMenckenFan

    That’s a murder charge if the parents did it so it should be the same for Abbott.

    Jayzuz America. What in the fuck are you doing???

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      Murder??? What are you basing that on?

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        The dead child, I would wager.

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          In a perfect world no child would ever die, but in our world children die sometimes. Medical problems do not discriminate.

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            If only there were some sort of way to ensure children don’t have any serious medical problems before you lie to them to illegally transport them over state lines…

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              We have no information to say that they were lied to or that the transport method is illegal.

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                Except for, you know, how that’s how they keep doing it.

                https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/04/migrants-california-left-outside-church

                https://www.npr.org/2022/09/15/1123109768/migrants-sent-to-marthas-vineyard

                https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/dc/a-lie-some-migrants-say-theyre-being-bused-to-district-under-false-pretenses/65-9e0cda60-5f12-4649-af5b-b8810a20345c

                But I’m sure they were honest this time.

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        Completely agree with you. It’s probably involuntary manslaughter due to gross negligence.

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          Or just happenstance. People have medical issues sometimes, it’s unlikely that there’s any criminality involved in my opinion.

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            it’s unlikely that there’s any criminality involved in my opinion.

            Depends on the criminality of government entities coercing migrant families into cross-state bus rides to be dropped off on the street…Unfortunately, you seem to be right.

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    This isn’t even the first migrant child he’s killed with his inhumane policies. This won’t even faze this disgusting piece of shit.

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      Actually, he’ll walk with slightly more pep in his step. He’s making a difference. He got what he wanted most.

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    Texas: Dead migrant children are a feature, not a bug.

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        I know it’s not the whole State. But holy crap, the optics are not good. Looking at Florida as well.

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    Jail.

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    Big pro life energy

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    Ah but this is for the “pro-life” crowd, they’ll eat it up.

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    Ask him if he cares.

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    Oh, no! Backlash? Whatever shall he do?

    (Hint: the same thing he always does due to lack of consequences)

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