Exactly. Read the room in other words!

I think down voting things you disagree with or want to discourage is a perfectly valid way to use them, and better in most cases than responding and further escalating a shit fight.

If something you post gets heavily downvoted, that’s information. You now know that your opinion is unpopular in that community. If you get down voted frequently and it really bothers you, it might be time to do some introspection on what you think or how you present yourself. Not all opinions are created equal, and you’re not entitled to people’s attention.

I can appreciate the opinion that discussion would be better, but I don’t think it’s realistic. Many times bad takes are coming from people who have no intention of listening, and just want to spew hate or argue. Down voting and moving on is a much better use of people’s time than arguing with these people. If for no other reason than preserving one’s mental health. It sends a message without feeding the trolls in other words.

As for how I use them? Funny/uplifting/valuable posts = upvote Don’t get it/not interesting to me = nothing Shit take/spam/obnoxious person/wrong community = downvote

Now kith 🫣

Everyone’s talking about the mad cow part, but this is also a really excellent point:

“Some of these people trying to define the future of humanity, creativity, or whatever it is using AI, are not the most humane or creative people. So they’re sort of saying, ‘We’re better at being human than you are.’ It’s obviously not true.”

It’s not a personal attack

And I took that personally!

I believe the important part is to make people scroll, not just the number of words. For some unholy reason google considers that a better website.

That’s also why some sites have a “go to recipe” button at the top now, which auto scrolls you to the recipe. They don’t care that you read the text, only that you scrolled a lot.

I had no idea they had this kind of terrain in Peru! Very cool

I don’t remember what it’s called but I’m pretty sure there is one I saw once and it was kind of terrifying looking.

The high-and-mightiness quotient in this thread is reaching critical levels

How could i know what you do in your spare time? You haven’t shared it until now. I can only go off of what you’ve said on this thread, and I do not retract my criticism of it. This will be the last response, so I hope you have a good day and thank you for making a difference in the world.

once.

Oh no it found us even here!

I can understand that perspective, but I also think you’re making a lot of assumptions about whether this was effective or not. Based on your original comment you don’t know, so I’m just encouraging benefit of the doubt instead of shitting on things for not being perfect.

Maybe as an activist yourself you could get in touch with this organization in the post and suggest some more effective methods for what they’re trying to achieve? That would be practicing what you’re preaching instead of just leaving comments online. Just my 2 cents, and I wish you well.

I say this respectfully, but has making negative comments about people trying to do good and educate others ever improved the situation?

I think it’s easy to be jaded right now, I struggle with it myself, but remember that this kind of knee jerk criticism is very deflating for some people to read. You might feel like it’s an outlet for you, but it can cause others to feel hopeless and depressed.

I don’t believe you want that, so I would encourage you to be more supportive of attempts at change, not just results. Changing hearts and minds is a long and imperfect process.

This seems like a really smart thing to do. Meet people where they are.

I also enjoy the fact that things like this probably make these massive corporate platforms sweat a little. People always find ways to subvert and I’m here for it.

MMOs have main quests usually

This is something I’ve wanted to see explored a lot for years. Excited to see a big studio trying it.

SANTA FE — The Santa Fe City Council voted on Wednesday to raise its minimum wage from $15 an hour to $17.50 in 2027, eliciting praise from workers’ rights advocates across the City Different.

But the calculation the municipality will use to determine future increases might be the bigger story, according to Reilly S. White, associate dean of teaching and learning and a tenured professor at the University of New Mexico.

“We investigated six different minimum wage scenarios,” White said in a phone interview Thursday. “The one proposed ended up being adopted and is based both on CPI, or Consumer Price Index, as well as the price of housing. That’s a novel approach because we typically see minimum wages across the country based on CPI alone.”

White said that, based on his research, Santa Fe is now the first city to account for the cost of housing when calculating minimum wage. The City of Santa Fe consulted with White on the new ordinance, which passed in a 5-2 vote late Wednesday night. Pilar Faulkner and Lee Garcia cast the two votes.

“I bring the perspective of actually owning and running a business and running a payroll,” Garcia, owner and operator of three Garcia Tires locations, told the Journal. “Every private business is different in how they have to operate. So it’s difficult when you do a mandate that, from my perspective, will just increase the costs. I feel like this will just hurt the same people we’re trying to help.”

City councilors voted after more than an hour of discussion, which partly centered around the new law’s terminology — specifically whether the term “living wage,” as originally proposed, or “minimum wage” should be used in the ordinance.

Mayor-elect Michael Garcia, who is a current city councilor for District 2, made the case that the pay increase might not be sufficiently high to call it a “living wage,” a change the governing body ultimately rejected.

Nonetheless, Garcia indicated that the ordinance is a step in the right direction.

“It is the responsibility of the City of Santa Fe to ensure that its workforce receives equitable and competitive wages,” he said in a statement. “In light of the increasingly high cost of living in our community, taking this step is essential to supporting our workforce, promoting stability, and upholding our commitment to a thriving and sustainable Santa Fe.” While most workers in the City Different will have to wait until 2027 for the increase to go into effect, Garcia introduced an amendment that will bring city employees under the $17.50 threshold up to the new standard starting Jan. 1, 2026.

Representatives from two local labor groups, Somos Un Pueblo Unido and Chainbreaker Collective, attended the council meeting and lauded the approval of the ordinance.

“Santa Fe took a decisive step toward fairness and dignity for every working family,” reads a statement from Somos Un Pueblo Unido. “With the passage of the minimum wage increase to $17.50 an hour, without carveouts or exclusions, our city has affirmed a simple but powerful truth: every worker deserves a wage that honors their labor and reflects the increasing cost of living in Santa Fe.”

Cathy Garcia, communications organizer for Chainbreaker Collective, said the ordinance’s consideration of skyrocketing rental costs in Santa Fe marks a critical evolution from the city’s prior living wage ordinance, which was passed in 2003.

“What Santa Fe has had since 2003 is an automatic increase,” she said Thursday. “It’s been based only on the CPI. Every year it just bumps up like 50 or 70 cents, just a little bit incremental. That’s what we’ve seen in these last 20 years, but basing it only on CPI has been wildly insufficient. Other municipalities across the country, they use CPI. Sometimes they use poverty metrics. This particular equation is including fair market rent, because it’s recognizing that rent in Santa Fe is particularly out of control.”

According to the City of Santa Fe, the previous local living wage was calculated based on the 12-month total increase of 2.76% in the Consumer Price Index for the Western Region for Urban Wage Earners and Clerical Workers. In 2024, for example, the calculation came out to $14.60 an hour.

Jill Dixon, executive director for The Food Depot, a food bank serving northern New Mexico, said rising costs this year and the recent federal government shutdown have increased pressure on food pantries across the region.

“What do systemic solutions really look like?” Dixon posed. “And what kinds of things do we need to advocate for in order to really address root causes? That fundamentally connects back to the cost of living crisis. People who are working, who are working very hard, who are working multiple jobs, simply can’t make ends meet, or right on the razor’s edge of needing the support of a food bank and our food pantries.”

Dixon and other proponents of the minimum wage increase communicated with outgoing Mayor Alan Webber about the needs they’ve seen firsthand among the populations they serve.

Webber sponsored Wednesday’s ordinance, which will be one of his final acts before Garcia takes office next year.

Opponents of the bill, predominantly local business owners, voiced their concerns at Wednesday night’s meeting, but White said the calculation used in the ordinance took into account the overall economic impact of raising the living wage.

“We don’t find evidence for significant employment effects following minimum wage,” he said. “How do employers respond? Sometimes employers might reduce hours for employees and that reduces costs. They might pass along some of the additional costs to consumers, but those end up being very, very small in comparison to the benefits that the workers get.” He emphasized that housing cost is the key factor in the new local law that should enable Santa Fe’s ordinance to make a meaningful difference in the lives of residents and the largest expense they face.

“Santa Fe is a very uniquely expensive real estate market in New Mexico, with a median home price of $600,000,” he said. “And two-bedroom rents, like the rest of the state, have undergone significant double-digit increases since the COVID years. That combination of factors is unique, and so this is an acknowledgement of housing being the most pertinent factor.”

Mulled cider is way more common where I live than wine, but we’re known for apples here so that’s probably why.

Look up the guild wars 1 soundtrack. Same composer I believe.

So let me get this straight… They’re still burning money on Concord through legal costs? Just walk away guys.